Every good sports podcast needs somebody holding the reins, and on The Good, The Bad & The Rugby that job falls to Alex Payne. Born in 1980, he is a British broadcaster who spent years as the face of Sky Sports rugby union coverage, anchoring Premiership afternoons and international weekends long before a podcast made him familiar to a much larger audience.
His role on the show is the straight man to Mike Tindall and James Haskell, which sounds thankless until you notice how much of the comedy depends on it. He asks the question the listener would have asked, then stands well back while two former internationals wander off into a story about a night out in 2007. It is a genuine skill, and rarer than it looks.
The show has since grown a long way beyond its feed, into live dates and a book, without ever losing the feel of three men talking rugby in a room.